https://anchor.fm/s/5b2ba790/podcast/play/127778222/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-9-20%2F33a117fc-04e0-1542-4f3c-ea6a55bda608.mp3Ella Eisenmann, with the church, discusses the event in more detail.